October 7, 2007

Models vs non-models, by Terrell Neasley


Working with professional model or non is a real debate, remember the long article of Marcus J Ranum about this question (check here).

Here is the smart point of view of Terrell Neasley after reading it.










By Terrell Neasley, post initially published on his photoblog :

" Ironically enough, I was breezing through one of the sites I check most every day.
Univers d'Artistes did an interview with Marcus J Ranum that talked about the use of models vs non-models the VERY DAY AFTER I do my tribute "To the Amateur".

Model vs. non-models... Professional model vs. amateur model = same thing.

In one sense we have opposing views, but then in another I agree on most of his points. I at the very least understand where he is coming from. There are definitely pros and cons in either case. He points out the fact that is just easier to use pros in that he can be choosy and that, for whatever reason, he hates asking non-models to pose for him.






















" Well, I can agree with several points he brings out. I know that there are specific shoots that could really be complemented by the aid of a professional model. When I have an idea and need a specific personality, body shape, or style, I could easily go to One Model Place or Model Mayhem and basically shop.
A photog or aspiring model can for sure learn a thing to two from Iris Dassault, who's blog I still direct my models to visit. You just can't beat the expertise of a pro. Her value is too beneficial to ignore. I am also a fan of Abigail Stewart.

" On the other hand, I mention why I like amateurs when I can use them in the post just before this one.
In addition to that, I think experiences have much to do with this. Marcus mentions hating to ask an amateur to model. Why that is, one can only speculate. Personally, I find it easy for me to do and I have gotten great results, so I continue it.

In addition, I can identify with the amateur, because I have been there myself and have developed a special affinity for those that do this (both pro and non-pro). I have dropped trow and stood before a class of artists for 30 minutes at a time as well as posed for photo peers. Thats not the easiest of work, mentally or physically. So I guess I have developed a high respect for figure models and even moreso for that person who can decide to do this on a whim as a first time experience or for the sole purpose of helping out an aspiring photog."


















The comment of Iris Dassault, model, to the Terrell Neasley's post :













Iris Dassault
"Dancer"
by Jim Young




" I know for one, that one of the great advantages of working with an experienced model is that she knows what to expect, knows how to pose, and a shoot tends to go smoother and quicker. I can get a LOT done in 30 minutes or less just because I don't really need much direction anymore. A lot of photographers I work with enjoy that aspect quite a bit, because it makes a shoot very easy.
But each model has to start somewhere, so it's great when photographers are willing to work with both. And ultimately, this should be about the image, the end-result, and that image doesn't care about the pro- or amateur status of the model. The image is just the image. It either works, or it doesn't. "




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