September 29, 2012

William Charpe's Interview


William Charpe at deviantArt, his blog, Art Limited, Fotothing and his first feature.








William, tell us how did your passion begin ?


My passion began when I was young. I started to draw my favorite heroes, to create new stories...


Could you define your way to work ?

I have a special concept : the "people selfshooting". I ask to my models to take self-pictures, then I work on it.


But I'm dreaming about working with good photographers.


I'm sure they'll ear you ! By the way, who are your greatest inspirators ?

Eboy, Pierre et Gilles, Andy Warhol... Ironic Pop, Darren Hopes, Madalina Iordache-Levay, Miss Buffet Froid...






"Office"
Created from a picture of Marcus J Ranum















"Work"
From a photo of Ana




Is there something special that inspires you ?

No. I try to make as new pictures I can...


Some words about your models ?

My models are everyone who wants to play with me. I think every body is pretty...


Do you make many corrections on a long period ?

No, I prefer to try new picture. I put my old or bad pictures test in my deviant art trash.










"Mechanicalove"
Model Black Depressive Fairy









What about your next project ?

I've been contacted by L'Affiche Moderne, a new website promoting young and upcoming talents, photographers, graphists, illustrators...










"More green please"
Portrait by Clicky









Have you scheduled your next exhibition ?

I do only exhibition on the web.











"Halloween"
Model Tallulla













Have you published a book ? Is there a new one to come ?

I dream about it.


Maybe something more personal to reveal ?


I think I'm like Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde. The day I'm working on "clean" webdesign for companies and the night I realize my "trash" pictures for my pleasure.



Thanks a lot William ! I wish your dreams come true...






"What is love 2"
Model Jessica


September 28, 2012

Van Hugo's Interview



Van Hugo lives in United States. Searching for new artists to interview, I was deeply attracted by the picture of Jen on the leaves. Beautiful composition, perfect expression, pleasing tonality, everything to give me this heartquake I love so much. So I'm proud and honoured to introduce Van Hugo.





Van Hugo, tell me how did your passion begin ?

 My passion for photography began when I was a teenager and I worked at a small town newspaper after school and weekends. I shot some sports and developed film and printed paper.


Since your childhoood, like so many artists... And did you learn photography in a special school ?

 When I went to college it was more of a minor for me. I learned almost everything from books and trial and error.







Jen












L Joy 3










Who are your greatest inspirators ?

A lot of people are amazed that I don't know this photographer or that photographer. I look at photos all the time, and I distinguish photographers that I like or might be of my taste but I hate to single any photographer as great or a hack, because it is truly art, and not all art is appreciated the same by all. I guess if I tried to at least narrow things down for you on this, I would say my inspirations and deep desires always lean toward photojournalism. Growing up in the 60s and 70s, I couldn't wait for the next Life magazine to come.


How long could you be far from your camera ?I almost always have my backpack nearby with two cameras and 5-6 lenses with me. At least 50% of the time, if you look in my trunk, you'll see a bag with enough gear for a 1 or 2 light setup too.


Do you feel particularly inspired by a type of location ?


When it comes to locations, I've always loved old brick, darkness and mood. Even a daylight shot using windowlight, I still love to get that brick and distressed wood surrounding my subject.








Sindy





What are your preferences ?


 I shoot so many ways, for so many reasons, and learn to love or hate it all. I shoot sports, photojournalism for anewspaper, I shoot models for portfolios, I shoot kids and babies and High School Seniors.. I love it all but when you shoot such a variety of small community work, I feel there is no room to mix that with my nude and erotic shooting. This is where DA has been my outlet. There are days that I'm burned out on studio and other days I've had it with daylight outdoor shooting and dealing with the elements.


Some words about your models ?

My models are a mix of life. Some are Moms, strippers, agency models, girls from internet model sites, friends, neighbors etc. I basically love all women and their varied bodies and forms. But my main desire is in knowing the client and drawing the natural connection through the eyes first, before worrying about sending the body language. If my model cannot connect with me through her eyes, then she is dead for all intentional purposes.










Julie










L Joy






What is your process of creation ?

Some of my better work has had structure and planning, at least a higher percentage of successes I feel came from planning. Never underestimate the power of planning. But I have had some amazing results from guerrilla shooting too. For me though, this requires working with someone that has spark and enthusiasm...a self starter.


And how do you feel at the end of a shooting ?

 I always feel like I did shit. I always want more... better... another look. But I go home and look at the files and always write down my first impression favs. I always end up with a long list of numbers and feel better about what I did.







Allura












Jen 3












Do you make many corrections after a shooting ?

 Not sure what you're looking for, but I'm always making corrections... second guessing myself. If you get too cocky thinking you know it all or stay with the same stuff over and over, I don't think you can evolve. You get set in your ways... old and dusty... crabby and unlikeable. Wait till I'm 80... then I'll play the crabby old dusty role. Ha Ha !


Have you a special project you're dreaming about ?

 I dream about special projects all the time. My whole life, since I was a kid reading Life and National Geographic, I have dreamed of that perfect international type shoot. Where I'm given supplies and equipment for an overseas assignment... preferably about life and not war. I love people and love showing them in their element. My other dream is ongoing. I love women and love photographing them. An ongoing special project in my life is fullfilled everytime a woman trusts me with her body and mind.


Have you scheduled your next exhibition ?

 I have only done an exhibition back in my college age. The internet is my continuing exhibition. Open 24hrs a day, 365 days a week and you can look in your robe and slippers.









Simone






Have you published a book ? Is there a new one to come ?

 No... in my mind... ha ha !








Jen 2








What's for your next future ?

 I will continue to love women and love working with them. That will always be my passion. I will also continue to shoot sports and high school kids and wedding and all that jazz.


A message to send ?

Hmmm. To all those beautiful ladies I have worked with, I love you all and thank you for inviting me into your life.


To a few very special people I have met along the way that even became a part of my life in one way or another... some from the past... some new to me now, I love all of you... I invited you into my life and every moment since has been a treasure of beautiful memories.


A so kind message ! Thanks for your time and your work !





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September 27, 2012

Nick Owen's Interview



" My passion is to put the images together with poetry in what I call “Poetry and Pictures", a new Art Genre." Nick Owen








"Red cape"












Nick tell us how did your passion for photography begin ?

I felt a deep connection with landscape very early in my childhood.


When there is pain and disappointment in connections with people it is possible to find a sense of connection and care in the beauty and grace of the outside world.


It seemed only natural to try to capture the spirit and beauty of rivers, bridges, mountains and lakes with my little box brownie.

I took history of art courses at school, and was inspired by the great landscape painters, and the creators of the great English parks and estates. It was when my daughter started to win a lot of art prizes I decided to take my own work more seriously and professionally.










"Turmoil"










And you were right... Did you learn your art at school ?

I had no special education in art or photography, other than the history of art. There I had an excellent teacher, who was kind enough to describe me as his most creative pupil. Then I was fortunate enough to flat share with someone who was doing a degree in photography in London in the 1970’s. I picked stuff up by osmosis and sharing a dark room. In terms of digital work I am completely self taught. Flickr and deviantArt have been my school for studying the work of thousands of other people.









"Diana Goddess of the hunt"





How long could you be far from your camera ?

I confess that sometimes I go out without it. Last Halloween I went out to a bonfire party without it and missed the most incredible sunset ever.


I was sure you had a notebook in your pocket... Who are your greatest inspirators ?

Bill Brandt’s urban landscapes in black and white made a huge impression. But Man Ray was another early influence.

I see my work in poetry and pictures as a broader subject than photography alone, and would like to mention Goya and Dali as profound inspiration. I did sculpture at school and want to include Michelangelo, Henry Moore here too.


And your favourite photographers ?

Robert Doisneau is brilliant at catching people in a city landscape. Though I love Bill Brandt’s landscapes, I am less happy with his nudes.

People like Alex Ingram have encouraged and supported me to embark on my own project of putting together the beauty of the naked human form with the beauty of landscape.








"Exquisite and strange"

How long did it take to find your own style ?

My style is still in some ways embryonic. It emerges as I work with new models and new spaces. But it comes out of who I am as a human being and an artist, and from the thirty years I spent as a therapist and educator.










"Blue moon"






I see. How do you define it ?

My original idea was to master the art of digital landscape photography, with emphasis on many layers of work from several images in post production. Then I decided to place a figure into the landscape. I cannot yet define my work or my style. I hope it keeps evolving as I learn.



It is still all about the pursuit of natural light for me, how and where it falls and how to catch the right moments.









However clever your editing, you can never make a silk purse out of a sows ear of a scene.










"Among thieves"










"Going with the flow"







By the way, how did you get into nude art photography ?

Looking at deviantArt, I felt I might have something to contribute myself.

The Wychwood forest near me here is an Eden for me to return to. I thought Eve should be there too. I asked a woman in a shop to model for me. She was a life model any way, by a stroke of luck, judgement or intuition, and said Yes. Now I look for professional and amateur models, and enjoy helping them develop a career.








"
On Reflection"
















There is no hazard, all writers know it, isn't it ?... What is your favourite theme ?


It is all about natural symbols for me. The forest, vistas, trees, water are the centre of it. I try to create a relatedness between figure and her setting.



I know that your photography is not mostly about nudes ?

My work is still predominantly landscape. But commercial concerns are pressing in on me. I am taking on commercial work around advertising and even estate agency work.


Do you plan every details from the beginning to the end ?


I research my location quite carefully in advance, and picture in my head the shots I want to create. I like to explore this with the model in advance. But when we get down to it, the light we have at that moment dictates everything.










"Wood nymph"









"Dazzler"





So, outdoors is your favourite type of location ?

At present my work is all forest. But I am hoping to shoot in mountains and by the sea soon.

Currently I work with a single outdoor light source almost all the time. I will do BW soon, but colour has me captive at the moment.


Some words about your models ? A shooting that you particularly liked ?

Karin was extraordinarily spiritual in a very pagan way. Her poses are almost like prayers. Jess is wonderful. She is too shy for portraits, but will plunge into a roaring stream and do the most daring things to give me the picture I am looking for. I cannot single out one shoot as being more special than the others though. Alice is so beautiful. She lights up a space.










"Arching"






How do you feel at the end of a shooting ?

Exhausted physically and mentally. So much concentration, not to mention lugging heavy camera equipment and tripod deep into the countryside.







"Recling belle in bluebells"













"Holding sway"




Have you a special project you're dreaming about in a near future ?


I want to work with a couple of models together before too long. Adam and Eve or Eve and Lilith.

Wonderful and universal themes ! Is your next exhibition scheduled ?


I am currently on view at the Said Business School in Oxford, but I am hoping to open at the “Creative Gallery” in Woodstock very soon.








"That obscure object of desire"





I know you have published a book. Is there a new one to come ?

I have published a book of poems but not a book of photographs. I set up the “Poetry and Pictures International” gallery on line hosted by Flickr. Before long there will be a Poetry and Pictures Review where I will publish my work.
I have been invited to contribute poetry and pictures to the new “Trespass” Magazine in London. I have a rolling programme of installation/performances in the west midlands, UK.








Nice ! And besides shooting, have you another passion ?

My passion is to put the images together with poetry in what I call “Poetry and Pictures", a new Art Genre.


A message to send ?

I want to see Poetry and Pictures as a new fashion that thousands of people will be engaged in through their social networking sites.


Thank you very much Nick ! Come back soon !










"Rite of Spring"






Nick Owen ©



September 25, 2012

Jeffrey McAlister's Interview


Jeffrey McAlister at his official site, Model Mayhem, deviantART










How did your passion begin ?


I knew by the age of eight years old that the nude female form captivated me.

I grew up with the love of two parents who never made me feel as if that was not how I should feel. I never really questioned my passion for a woman’s body and simply tended that passion, free to grow and deepen as I became older and more experienced. Middle age has freed me to completely embrace the study of form and erotic emotional sexuality both felt and expressed in imagery.









"The Rainmaker"















Did you learn photography in a special school ?


I had a high school project that forced me to pick up the 35mm SLR and began a love affair with my father’s Nikkormat FTN. I first had the opportunity to make nude photographs in a continuing education class in Cambridge MA.


Who are your greatest inspirators ?

I have so many inspirations. It feels as if my life is one long string of images and pieces of music that have shaped the joy in my consciousness. Among those are Edward Weston, Ralph Vaughn Williams, CV Stanford, Margaret Bourke White, Trevor Watson, Bob Dylan, Michael Helms.

I have to say ; early in my time making nudes, the published work of Jock Sturges was huge for me. The fact that he could shoot a subject so socially forbidden and bring such clean, frank love and expertise to those images… such honesty blew me away. I admired Robert Mapplethorp for the same reasons.










I need to add… in my work there is no inspiration greater than the heart of a woman that compels her to want to share her body and the truth of her feelings with my camera.



By the way, how long could you be far from your camera ?

Like so many artists who have to make their livings in other ways, my camera is not always with me but then it’s never really very far away. I’m striving not not let too many days go by between making images.









"Trident"












"Rain Maker 2"




Do you feel particularly inspired by a type of location ?

For a period of time I made many nudes in nature. Frankly that is the cliché fallback for making “art nude.” I hit a point where the affectation in that bothered me. I found myself asking why ? Why is she naked ? Why is she here ? The obvious answer was, because I crave her nude image and the here lends some sort of context. I guess I felt that that context, no matter how beautiful, was dishonest. More dishonest was the why.

Why is she naked? The true answer is because she and I want to express the power of humanity that is both physically beautiful and multi textured in its emotional range. The sexuality expressed inherently in the nude has drawn me like a moth to a flame. I believe every nude is sexual. I believe every person who argues otherwise is being foolish. The studio has given me the freedom to explore sexuality in imagery by virtue of the privacy it gives me. Truthfully I’m dying to make more images in more varied locations, which might again offer more context to the feelings in my images.











"Flesh"





What are your preferences, indoor, outdoor, natural lights, color ?

God is light. Light is light. I make it, I reflect it, I bend it, I follow it, I take it as it comes and goes. I certainly don’t believe any one approach is best. I use strobe a lot. I use natural light if it is available to me. At rare times I use both.

I think color images can be very beautiful and recently since the digital world has opened up for me, I make many more color images than I use to. I do think that color reminds any viewer of modern culture… color says television, computer, movies. Color says porn to people, in a way that monochrome simply does not.

Black and white by its nature stylizes an image and takes the viewer into a different relationship to the image. 

As much as the average viewer doesn’t realize it, monochrome offers such a wide and lovely range of tonality. Film does that better than digital but anyone who hasn’t noticed how fast digital is improving, isn’t paying attention.









"Hands Down"












"Herself in color"





Some words about your models ?

From the most experienced to the least, they are angels. You have to understand a model removes her clothes and bares her sexual soul, not only because I want to make imagery, but because she wants to see herself in that light, through my eyes, and she wants to be seen. She wants that raw freedom. Weather or not I’m paying her has very little impact on that basic truth. For me having the freedom to create, sharing the light with such generosity of flesh and spirit is a colossal gift.




















I agree, of course... And what is your process of creation ?

I guess I seek order. I know I need contextual concept, props, and visual details to help advance my work conceptually. That is really what has led me into shooting more fetish images. I end up with models who are sometimes turned on by fetish, and it gives me a smorgasbord of directions I can take in the work, visually speaking.


How do you feel at the end of a shooting ?

I’m usually exhausted, elated, and a little sad that those magic hours of light and flesh are ended for the moment.



















Do you make many corrections ?
I’m never completely finished with any image or any set of images. If I go back to some set I made years ago, I always find an image that I didn’t regard at the time as I do now.


Have you a special project you're dreaming about ?

I’ve wanted to have the resources to make more images with real couples. I want to shoot lovers, true lovers.


















Have you scheduled your next exhibition ?


Not currently. Perhaps you could arrange for me a show in France ?


Wow ! I never thought about, but why not ?... And what's for your next future ?

I do wish to make a book.









"Lovers"





A message to send ?

If I could communicate only one thing in my work, it would be that human sexuality at its most raw and explicit is infused with exquisite beauty.

A dear friend told me what she loves in my work is (her words now !) “ You give women permission to behave the way we feel inside. What you see and express validates me.” No compliment regarding my work will ever matter to me more than that one.

I will battle against any force to remind people that the voices, which want to condemn sex as suspect, evil, and socially perverse… those voices are the real evil. Those voices lie. They lie to themselves, and they inflict harm and pain, which the world of feeling thinking souls would be happier without.


You're so right... "Make love not war" is to engrave everywhere. I'm battling at your side. Thank you Jeffrey !






"Carpet"





September 23, 2012

Richard Rasner's Interview





" Shooting for me is mentally exhausting. I put my heart and soul into every shoot, so when I'm done I usually just want to collapse. Which is, of course, balanced out by the maniac energy I suddenly get to want to process the images and finish the job. It's a strange dichotomy and never ceases to take a toll on me. But I wouldn't have it any other way."
Richard Rasner







"Rays of Hope"
Art Model Stacey










How did your passion for photography begin ? Do you remember your first experience ?

I've dabbled in photography since high school, but nothing professional until I started working for a friend (Michael Nakayama) in 1998. I think my first experience on a "real" shoot was at the Playboy Mansion, and after Mike passed away in 2001 I had another "first experience" on my own at my home studio.


Both posed significant challenges in their own way, but I overcame my fears and learned to really embrace my role as an artist.







"Chandelier part 2"
Art Model Britany

" An absurd nude from last year's City of Sin II shoot."













(not so absurd...) ... It's what I call a vocation, or Passion, or any other strong words. It deserves a long article. Did you learn your art somewhere ?


From the aforementioned mentor, Michael Nakayama. He taught me quite a bit about the mechanics of photography, although he wasn't much in to the creativity. When he passed away and left me the studio I took it in an entirely other direction.


How long could you be far from your camera ? You're so prolific !I'm not sure ! Every year I promise myself a vacation from Thanksgiving to New Years (about 6 weeks) but it never, never works. I always end up scheduling shoots and working anyhow.


You're not alone acting like that !... Richard, how long did it take to find your so personal style? And, more difficult, could you define it ?

 Looking back at my early post-Mike work I see that I was still heavily influenced by his style until about 2003, or two years of working on my own. It was then that I started shooting very "outside the box" photography such as blacklight, character work, unusual location shoots and so on.

Defining my style is hard to do because it's all over the place.


With a self-named moniker like "Unique Nudes" I constantly have to raise the bar as far as creativity goes, which means changing my own style all the time.







"Hitchhiker"
Art Model Conundra

" This is an image from "Apocalypse 4", featuring Conundra. It was my first time working with her, and I'm really glad I got the chance to."










"Kitsch"
Art Model Sybil Hawthorne










Who is the photographer who influenced you the most ?

I like Helmut Newton's work, and Spencer Tunic. But neither of them "influenced" me as I have always been for more interested in creating a truly new style, never before seen.








"Just leave me alone"
Art Model greenbirdgirl





And you succeed ! Furthermore, your work covers a so wide range of themes, realistic, funny, classic... What I hope to show here. Is there a particular one that you enjoy above all ?

 I really enjoy blacklight work a lot, as very few people in the world do it, and even fewer (probably none) manage it using invisible inks. So because it is my own brain child I am particularly happy with it. Other than that I truly love going out to unusual locations (abandoned mines, ghost towns, etc) and shooting models in the most unlikely of places.










"The evolution of the wheel"
Art Model greenbirdgirl

" This was shot on my 1931 Rolleiflex TLR, which seems to have leaked light in a few shots, including this one. It was shot at a vertical mine shaft just outside of Searchlight, NV, for the series Ghost Town 5: Death at Searchlight (part of the Classic Camera™ series and also a chapter in my new Abandoned book)."










"By the black pond"
Art Model Staysha

" The "Haunted Trees" in this series ran alongside the edge of a river bank, which was really just a small trickle of melted snow run off. The few times I had Staysha interact with it, though, she was quite the trooper."










You have a rich imagination. Do you plan every detail or is it just improvised ?

A little of both actually. With a series like my current ongoing "Re-Imagined Heroes" shoots (male comic characters re-done as females) I have a LOT of stuff storyboarded before hand.


But I am always very flexible with ideas and I work closely with the model to make sure that we are both getting the desired results out of the shoot.








"Well constructed"
Art Model Shana J.

" Here's some brand new work with a model I have never worked with before, a stunning lady named ShanaJ. This was shot at a building under construction next door to my studio ; my assistant was able to get permission from the owner last minute to shoot there."





What locations do you prefer to use mainly ? Outdoors maybe ?


 As I mentioned previously I love unusual outdoor locations, like old warehouses, burnt casinos, etc. But for controlled work (like my blacklight or projections series) nothing beats a professional, well-equipped studio.


Some words about your models who seem so natural ?My most "natural" models are natural hams ; at home in front of the camera and well aware of their body posing, facial expressions and more. I like working with models who are comfortable with their bodies, as that always comes off well on camera. Most of them would tell you though, that it's far from "natural."


Even new models who do very well in front of the camera the first time confess they have lots of experience acting, making faces in the mirror and so on. Being a "natural" takes a lot of work !










"On a mossy bed"
Art Model Amy

" More work from "In the Gardens II". We found a soft mossy floor for Amy to lie down on, tucked in behind a natural enclave made of purple flowers."













"Mind corpse"
Art Model Rachel














How do you feel at the end of a shooting ?


 Shooting for me is mentally exhausting. I put my heart and soul into every shoot, so when I'm done I usually just want to collapse. Which is, of course, balanced out by the maniac energy I suddenly get to want to process the images and finish the job. It's a strange dichotomy and never ceases to take a toll on me. But I wouldn't have it any other way.



Have you some challenges you're dreaming about in a near future ?

 I'm traveling a lot throughout the end of this year and early next year covering music festivals for Mojo Republik Magazine, and I'd like to try to meet and shoot models in every city I visit. I'm not sure if it's possible, but judging by the amount of e-mails I get from potential models from all over the world I think I have a pretty good shot.


Busy man, isn't it ! Have a nice trip. Between all these projects, when and where will be your next exhibition ?

That depends on when this interview gets published ! (I show almost constantly.)









"CAT nap"
Art Model Charalei

"Figment finds a comfortable place to curl up, high in the air in this shot from : Industrial 6 : Construction."





In October I am showing in Las Vegas at "The Box Office" (opening reception Friday, Oct 4th) and also at the Los Angeles Center for Digital Art (opening reception October 9th). Both shows run through November 1st.

Then in December I will be showing all of my music work at a special exhibition at "The Beat Farm" in Las Vegas (opening reception December 5th). I recently had shows in Lodz, Poland and Bonn, Germany.




I'm impressed... And thanks a lot for your impatience. Richard, you have published a book "Whisper of the Mind" (sold out at Amazon, I've checked, of course !), is there a new one to come ?

My first book was entitled "Whispers of the Mind" (ISBN 978-1-4116-6785-3) and was a best-seller on Amazon.com. It is now out of print but still available via Lulu press.

My newest book "Abandoned : The Relentless Passage of Time" has been delayed more than once but should still be out in time for Christmas. It’s a compendium of all of my unusual location shoots from 2004-2008. At 11x13 and nearly 200 full color pages it's liable to be the largest book I've ever put out.

There are also plans in the works for two "Abandoned" sequels, as well as another book I've been shooting for 3 years, "Demons & Fallen Angels". The latter of which is also being filmed as I shoot it for a documentary film, the second major such film about my work. The first one "The Making of Diversity" about my award-winning 17 model shoot will be out by the end of this year and will probably debut exclusively on Mojo Republik.










"Mermaid - NS II"
Art Model Britany

From "Wet II: Night Swim"
" I'd like to point out that with the exception of rotating this image 90° I did not in any way manipulate (stretch, skew) it. She just looks abnormally long at this perspective."





You have such a busy life ! All these plans and realizations... Bravo ! Before we leave, any message you’d like to transmit ?

Nude art is not porn. It seems like such a simple statement, yet the amount of people who feel that way is staggering.


I tend to focus on the non-erotic, non-sexual nude (although not all my work falls entirely in that category) and I feel like the human body (male or female ; I shoot both) is a work of art that is wholly separate from its biological reproductive function.

I hope that someday nude art photography can once again be respected as a true art form.



You're so right. I agree, I share, I hope, and I make my best for that ! We are on the good way. Thanks a lot Richard for your amazing talent, your kindness and your support. Give us news quickly !










"Stargazing"
Art Models Lydia Love and Figment

" Brand new work from a brand new series entitled Desert Texture. I shot this under a near-full moon on a dry lake bed in Nevada, but the clouds foiled my original plan so I used flash instead to bring out the dramatic textures in the soil. "

















The Whispers of the Mind project was an ambitious undertaking by fine art nude photographer Richard Rasner of Nakayama Studios back in 2004.

It featured over 25 different models in various costumes at locations all over Southern California.
The Whispers of the Mind book contains all 34 original images, re-mastered in stunning high resolution, with commentary from the artist on each one. Each image is in glorious full color on its own page, with the commentary preceding it on the adjacent page to allow as much room for detail as possible.